I Love You. I Hate You. Don’t Call Me

Our telephones rule our lives. We love them, we hate them. Someplace deep down inside, we hope they by no means go away. However, if current gross sales information is to be believed, we’re additionally extremely tired of smartphones—so bored actually that we’re shopping for far fewer of them than we used to.

This week, we discuss what the long run seems like for smartphones. They’ll possible get extra foldable, their voice options might develop chattier, and so they may even include a chip to acknowledge AI-generated nonsense and block it like spam. WIRED senior editor and famous techno-grouser Jason Kehe joins our dialog about the way forward for the cellphone and the way forward for our souls.

Present Notes

Learn Lauren’s interviews with 5 outstanding technologists as they predict the phone’s future. The story is a part of our WIRED 30 package celebrating our thirtieth anniversary as a publication.


Jason recommends Anaximander and the Birth of Science by Carlo Rovelli. Lauren recommends swimming and not podcasting. Mike recommends Why Buddhism Is True by Robert Wright.

Jason Kehe could be discovered on Twitter @jkehe. Lauren Goode is @LaurenGoode. Michael Calore is @snackfight. Bling the primary hotline at @GadgetLab. The present is produced by Boone Ashworth (@booneashworth). Our theme music is by Solar Keys.

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